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bummy said in October 15th, 2008 at 12:52 am

was staring at your STE chart. i understand what you are saying but do not know where do you draw the 0 & 100%.

would it be a good idea for your charts to open up in a seperate page when it is clicked? may become easier to toggle between your chart and explanation.

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CharlesMing said in October 15th, 2008 at 7:28 am

well, if you click on the charts it does open up already.

For fibonnaci, I am using the highest point it has ever reached, to the lows set recently. You could also draw it based on prices derived years ago but at this juncture I prefer to use the latest lows. It doesnt matter a whole lot. Which low point you use, really depends on the time horizon too.

I will illustrate in future in a chart where I use lows set years ago. This one is quite important actually. Many would use the lows set near the start of the bull cycle. This line has since cracked so people take the 100% even lower, back in 2002 or so. Where I would put the 100% in such a case, is where the market rebounds, retraces to form a higher low, and then shoots up into the bull cycle which of course ended last year.

I will illustrate this soon in the charts :)

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Alvin said in October 16th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

Yes, I have basically the same lines drawn for SPH. Yesterday, I was tracking the price action for SPH the whole day and I messaged you that I might ask my family to cut loss. The price action looked as if it was going to form either a gravestone doji or an inverted hammer and I dumped the stocks at $3.54 to $3.50. Anyway, lost a bit of money. Today, my sabbatical starts. Hahaha… So, no more action in the stockmarket for me until you confirm that ultimate bottom! Thanks, bro.

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Alvin said in October 16th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

It’s all as well that we cut since the stock broke the support and went falling to $3.35 before it climbed back to close at $3.43. It formed a kind of black hammer today. It’ll be interesting to see how the price action plays out tomorrow. I’m watching all this in a detached and pedestrian manner. Bliss! :)

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CharlesMing said in October 16th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

hehe.. maybe later i will look at SPH again for your sake. But then again u r already out? So maybe no point.

One thing to note, defensive stock tends to have long ‘tails’. ie, sometimes intraday it can move a lot. SMRT, ST Eng etc.. u can be faked out by it easily.

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Alvin said in October 16th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

Say what? You think I was faked out of SPH! Damn. Whipsawed again! :(

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CharlesMing said in October 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

i never say u got faked out la. I said defensive stocks tend to have a big intraday movements that will scare everyone. anyway… its good to have it released la. see how things go. maybe when there is a trend reversal u can do some tikams. :)

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Alvin said in October 16th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Hahaha… hmmm… tikams? See how lor. I am more interested in buying at the bottom and then deep freezing everything for 3 to 5 years and then thawing them for sale with 100 to 200% capital gains. hahaha…

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CharlesMing said in October 16th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

huh… bull market where got so little only. LOL

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Alvin said in October 16th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

Aiyah… I’m being conservative mah. Anyway, I will probably buy into defensives like ST Engg, which is likely to yield only 100% upside, max 150%, given my past experience. Of course, I will have to go into conglomerates and property stocks this time as well which might appreciate 400% or more. Banks and SIA probably will have limited upside and 100% – 200% seem realistic for these.

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CharlesMing said in October 17th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

look for something like YZJ or Cosco… :P

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Alvin said in October 17th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

Aiyo, shipping stocks? Personally, I think this sector will take years to recover but, yes, when it does recover, it will boom, boom, boom. Now, I just don’t want to look at Chinese companies if I can help it. :(

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